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Hoo-Ray for the BSA!
Everyone makes a mistake now and again, and I’m sure no exception! That’s why I try to stay on top of things as much as I can. So, a couple of weeks ago, I re-took the BSA’s online “Troop Committee Challenge” training. Oops! There was what appeared to be a glitch. A small one, but it could have major impact. So I respectfully wrote to Texas, describing what I’d observed. Not more than about a couple of weeks later, a letter from the BSA national office arrived. Here’s the thrust of what it said:
Dear Mr. McCommish:
I have been asked to respond to your letter…concerning the troop committee agenda located at the end of the online Troop Committee Challenge training. You are indeed correct, the Scoutmaster is not a part of the troop committee and the sample troop committee agenda did create the impression that the Scoutmaster was part of the troop committee. Thank you for pointing this out to us, we have cleared up the discrepancy… Enclosed please find the updated troop committee agenda that has been posted at the end of the online committee challenge… We appreciate you bringing this to our attention and giving us the opportunity to be consistent in our publications. Yours in Scouting, Fred J. Meijering, Group Director (with cc’s to Robert Mazzucca, Chief Scout Executive; Albert Kugler, Director CSE Office; and Joe Glascock, Training Director)
I can’t speak for you, but I’ll say without hesitation: I’M IMPRESSED! That response was fast, forthright, and attempted to sweep nothing under the proverbial carpet. Most of all, it told me that they’d checked it out and fixed the problem! These guys are my heroes! I hope they’re yours, too! ______________________________________________________
Hi Andy,
Three-wheeled Pinewood Derby cars? Well let’s start
here: We’ve
all seen it, a Scout is getting some hands-on
instruction in the field on how to put guy lines on a
tent or tarp, and terms like "bowline" and "taut-line
hitch" and "clove hitch" are flying past his blank and
unknowing visage like MIGs in a dogfight and it's
contagious—his patrol mates seem just as clueless. He
must have known these for at least a few moments, since
he’s apparently made it to First Class, but if you don’t
“use it” you “lose it.” So, at troop meetings, all of a
sudden there are inter-patrol games with knot-tying
relays and building 20-foot spans with four-foot
segments logs and rope and, in no time at all, all the
Scouts know enough knots to keep Houdini
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As District Roundtable Commissioner, I’ve been asked to include in our program a session on adult leader recognitions and awards. I’d like to include in this your take on whether it’s worth the time and effort for a Scoutmaster to earn such awards. From reading your columns, I’ve observed that you feel that earning and wearing (i.e., square knots) such recognitions helps tell everyone you’re qualified for your position and have paid your dues. Please share any other advantages you see to pursuing these, and to what degree a Scoutmaster should work on earning them. Are their other awards you’d recommend, as well? Thanks for your help. (Ernie Kuhn, RTC, Great Salt Lake Council, UT)
There are two sides to the Scoutmaster or adult leader recognition "coin." From the Scoutmaster's side, the more he pursues progress records for the Boy Scout Leader's Training Award and Scouter's Key, the more he assures himself (and his troop!) that he's staying current and continuing to learn and deliver the Scouting program as it's intended to be delivered. The other side of the coin is in recognitions that he can't earn but must be nominated for. These include the Scoutmaster Award of Merit, which his troop should definitely make sure happens (only 18-months tenure required!), the District Award of Merit (which troop leaders can nominate him for, once a year till he receives it!), and the recognition by his faith (e.g., St. George, God and Service, On My Honor, etc.). This latter group of recognitions is critical because these are the ones that validate the Scoutmaster's contribution to the development of the youth of his community and tell him that those whom he's serving appreciate and acknowledge what he's committed himself to—especially if his troop is sponsored by a place of worship! Finally, yes, he should wear the square knots. The Scoutmaster who declines doing this (usually with the purportedly modest statement of "It's just for the boys...") doesn't get it—He doesn't understand that, as a role model, he has an obligation to achieve for himself and to wear the symbols of those achievements with conservative and humble pride.
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I’ve been asked to write a letter of recommendation for one of my former students, who’s working to be an Eagle Scout. I’d appreciate some advice on what should be included in the letter. Thank you. (Betty Kerstiens, Bay Area Council, TX)
Now it's probably impossible for you to comment on each and every point of these two; after all, you saw only a fraction of his total "daily life." That's OK! Just comment on what you do know. Not so much with "superlatives" as with, ideally, an anecdote or two to support your observation.
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Nope. Tacky, to the max. _____________________________________________________________
Dear Andy,
BSA form no. 34293A works just fine for reporting Cub Scout den advancements for the Sports and Academics stuff! (Ben Ward)
Thanks!
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Our Blue & Gold Banquet’s coming up and we have five Webelos II Scouts who have finished their Arrow of Light and all 20 of the Webelos Activity Badges. But hold the applause… The Den Leaders have allowed the parents to sign off on stuff. Some of these boys got as many as five activity badges "magically" completed, and the DLs had no involvement at all! I don't want to create a firestorm over this, since in just a couple of weeks all these boys and their families move on (they’re a den of parents we “inherited,” and we’ve never been able to get them to get in line with the program), so I’m leaning toward just letting it go and moving them on (God help the troop that get’s ‘em!), but I don’t want this to be setting the example for our current Webelos I Den Leaders. The fly in the ointment, I’m learning, is that is we have boys on two different school tracks—traditional and 12-months—so at any given time, some subset of the Cubs are “on vacation," where their families travel, so that these boys miss meetings, so this is how they handle “make-ups.” For levels other than Webelos, this wouldn’t be an issue, since the parent is Akela and does the signing off anyway. But for Webelos, I think the answer is they can only make up whatever they missed, from the meetings they missed—they can’t just start romping, willy-nilly, through activity badges as their whims take them: That's the compromise point I'm willing to go with, under the category of “parent signature for Webelos advancement.” Any thoughts on this?
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Can you provide a definition of the word “Scouter,” as in, “Here’s news for all Scouts and Scouters…”? Thanks! (Fran Minakowski, Baltimore Area Council, MD)
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I wrote to you a few months back, about my troop's merit badge policies, and again I’m faced with a problem I’m wondering about… I volunteered to be the Merit Badge Counselor for Communications, but then I was told by the troop’s other leaders that I can’t counsel any Scouts who are not at least Tenderfoot rank, since this merit badge is Eagle-required. Now I can understand letting Life or Star Scouts have first crack at this, as they need this merit badge for rank advancement, and I can understand talking it over with a younger Scout and maybe suggesting to him that he may want to do some less intensive merit badges before starting in on the Eagle-required ones; but I’m worried about turning away young Scouts who are eager and excited about this merit badge solely on the basis of their rank. I think it would be more damaging to dampen their enthusiasm and willingness to push ahead. Basically, a case-by-case approach seems better than a blanket prohibition. At worst, a Scout may get into the merit badge and say, "Whoa, this is over my head!" and decide to wait a bit. But if the reasoning is that Eagle-required merit badges are "too hard" for younger Scouts, then shouldn't we extend this rule to Electronics, Nuclear Science, and Motorboating, among others? But maybe I’m missing a BSA policy that says Scouts need to wait till they’re Tenderfoot or higher to start any Eagle-required merit badges. I’m just worried, because I’ve had several bright young Scouts who even at an early age already have long-range goals that they want to start on, and I don’t want to see their drive deterred by what might be nothing more than an arbitrary rule. (Sarge Morrison, Circle Ten Council, TX)
I’m looking around at other troops right now…maybe ones that don’t make arbitrary rules. To this troop's credit, they do have a good Tenderfoot program, with “Tenderfoot Olympics" starting right after the crossover. But that may be about the best I can say, because otherwise I think that their merit badge program has a lot of problems and a lot of unnecessary rules.
I appreciate your thoughts and insights. Right now, I’m preparing to take a stand on this issue, and I want to make sure that I wasn’t wrong in challenging this issue. Having the BSA policy in writing right there in the Scout handbook is going to help a lot! (Sarge)
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We seem to have some problem with packs in our district saying they can have their own pack-level Webelos day hike or Webelos-O-Ree, but then they just go to the local park, roast some hot dogs, and call it done. We’ve now come up with a policy in black-and-white that we can give our packs. Would you please take a moment and see if this is correct, or if you have anything else that would help us? Here’s the statement: “Per national guidelines, Webelos Woods can only be sponsored by a district or council, since sites for the activity must be approved and meet all health and safety guidelines per the BSA and the local council. The Cub Scout Outdoor Program guidelines state that the Webelos-O-Ree will also require site-approval sponsorship and staffing by the local district or council. Units are not permitted to hold these activities on their own.” What’s your input on this subject? We’d like to get everyone on the same wave-length. But the same question keeps getting asked by several of our packs: Why can’t we do our own Webelos Woods at the ward or stake level? Thanks. (Kathy Tibbs, WW Chair, Palmyra District)
"Webelos Woods is designed to give first and second year Webelos Scouts and their parents a preview of the Boy Scouting experience. The program reinforces Boy Scouting values, procedures, methods and skills. It is an introduction to Boy Scouts being a "boy led" program versus the "adult led" program used in Cub Scouts. Also, there is the thrill of camping in the outdoors at a Boy Scout style camp, which will foster a desire to continue Scouting. This is an excellent time for each troop to show the Webelos in its area what the troop does and to recruit new Scout for the troop. Likewise, this is an excellent time for Webelos to visit with a variety of troops from your area, and learn which troop may be the best to join..."
"A little about Webelos Woods. This program exists in
many states but varies from council to council. Our
program is quite unique. For one weekend the young men
in your den get to experience what boy Scouting has to
offer them. This is not just a taste: any closer and
they will have to fill out a registration card. Weeks
before Webelos Woods your den will put their den number
aside and select an identity. They will have to pick a
patrol name. We will call them the “Flying Dragons “ and
till crossover they will be known as “the Flying
Dragons”. It doesn’t stop there; they will be creative
and make a patrol cheer. Patrol cheers create a sense of
belonging and pride the cheer is to be used when ever
the patrol meets and competes.
"Webelos Woods is a special program designed to help Webelos-level Cub Scouts (fourth and fifth graders) prepare for the more rigorous outdoor camping activities they will experience when they move up to Boy Scouts. With assistance provided by parents and Scout leaders, the Webelos boys are required to pitch their own tents, bring their own food and cook their own meals for the weekend. Webelos Woods is unique to other Scout camping because it draws together a team of local professionals - PhDs, MDs, expert technicians and instructors - to teach the Scout activity pin sessions and permit boys to earn two different pins in one weekend. Experts were available to teach Geologist, Handyman, Readyman, Forester, Naturalist, Scientist and Engineering badges. The annual Webelos Woods event is held during the first weekend in October each year. The event is open to all registered Webelos Scouts..."
Now none of these suggests that there's some sort of nationally-mandated program that must be followed to the letter, but they all certainly suggest that their big purpose is to strengthen the bond between Webelos Scouts about to determine their Scouting futures (i.e., becoming Boy Scouts by joining a troop) and the Boy Scouts and troops in their area (or district). So, let's focus for a moment on the goal of Webelos Woods: To further the Webelos-to-Scout transition.
I can't tell you whether the statement you want to issue is correct or not. I've certainly never seen it before, but then there's still lots of stuff "in writing" that I haven't yet seen (I research for the answers each and every time I'm asked a question, and I only mess up when I don't do my research thoroughly). If you tell me where you found that statement, I'd be happy to go to the same source and verify it for you. Meanwhile, you may want to simply ask your council's camping committee to publish a similar statement and be done with it!
Finally, did you know that there's a "Palmyra District" that runs a Webelos-Ree and makes this statement: "Due to the growth in the Palmyra District it has become necessary to split the participants into two groups. The LDS Stakes will attend the sections specified; non-LDS groups can contact Stephen or Charles for their dates. We cannot make exceptions for whole wards that wish to attend at different times; however exceptions may be made for the individual boy whose 11th birthday may occur before the date assigned to his Stake. These exceptions must be cleared and approved through Stephen or Charles." Now if this is your Palmyra District, it seems like there's already a method for handling LDS and non-LDS Webelos and troops; if not, you may want to borrow from them, because the LDS administration of the Scouting program has very precise regulations on the ages of boys and young men (remember "Blazer Patrols"?) because Scouting is—quite literally—the male youth group for this church. _____________________________________________________________
Hi Andy,
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I’m a new Cubmaster, although I’ve twice been a Tiger and Wolf Den Leader, so I’m actually in my fifth year of Cub Scouting. In these five years, our pack meetings have always included an opening flag ceremony, a raffle, awarding belt loops and pins, skits, a closing ceremony, and then snacks and clean-up. Each den has different pack meeting responsibilities each month, for the opening, closing, snacks, raffle items, and skit. Our Blue & Gold Banquet has centered around rank advancement ceremonies, which means that all dens had to complete their rank advancement programs by February in order for their Cubs to be awarded their ranks. Though the program has been consistent, it’s a bit dry. I’m trying to change this by adding games, songs, chants, different applauses, and so on. One of the things I’d like to reduce or change is awarding the belt loops. With 60 Cubs in the pack and some of them earning two and three belt loops at each pack meeting, calling the boys by name and naming each loop gets boring! I need to know what the policy is regarding this kind of recognition. We only meet for an hour, and I’d like the boys and their families to get to know each other a little better though games, songs, and FUN. Please let me know what you think. (Name & Council Withheld)
First, my hat's off to your keeping your pack meetings to an hour! And for wanting to incorporate more fun stuff! These are certainly not supposed to be "mini-courts-of-honor," but for Cub Scouts instead of Boy Scouts! They're absolutely supposed to be FUN! BUT, that doesn’t mean you drop recognizing achievements entirely—That would be a huge and grievous error! In fact, I’m going to tell you flat-out that you’re not presenting enough recognitions!
Oh, one more thing… The rank and Arrow Point ceremonies should definitely include calling the parents of each advancing Cub up to the front of the room for the ceremony, and they should definitely not include the classic “here’s your Zip-Loc bag o’ patches, shake hands, sit down, next…”
Thank you so much. I knew that Tiger, Wolf, Bear, and so on are supposed to be awarded as they’re earned, but change takes time. I’ll definitely start implementing some of these things. One more question: What are my responsibilities as Cubmaster and how much say do I have in planning what goes on at the pack meetings. Am I beholden to the pack committee? Thanks again!
While, ultimately, the Cubmaster "reports" to the committee, it's not in the sense of "taking orders from." You don’t take orders from the committee and they don't "vote" on whether they like the pack meeting program or not. If they truly don't like the way you're handling things, and they've expressed this to you through the Committee Chair (only!) and you're unwilling to change, they can shut up or fire you—there's no middle ground.
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Hi Andy,
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In BSA adult training I’ve learned that a troop's Senior Patrol Leader serves in that capacity at all troop functions and activities during his term of office. This tracks with my long-ago experience as a Scout. However, in our troop, the elected Senior Patrol Leader is in charge of troop meetings and PLCs, but he’s not in charge at any campouts, service projects, or other troop activities. For these types of events, various Scouts "volunteer" to be the "SPL-for-the-day” at the event, so that each event has a different Scout in charge of it. This practice started, so they say, a long time ago, and its rationale is that it gives all Scouts leadership experience. I wonder if any other troops do this sort of thing, and, if so, if you know of any guidelines to use for this sort of practice. (John Japs, ASM, Northern Star Council, MN)
Bottom line: This is malarkey and it undermines the SPL; plus, it deprives him of his responsibilities and the learning that goes along with that. This little nonsensical ritual needs to be shot and buried as fast as possible. Leadership is a honor accorded by one’s fellow Scouts and doesn’t happen just because it’s “your turn in the barrel.” Scouts "get leadership experience" when they're chosen to be APL by their elected Patrol Leader, or ASPL by their elected Senior Patrol Leader, or they're elected PL or SPL, or appointed Scribe, QM, Instructor, Troop Guide (for new Scout patrols), etc. Your folks need to go back and RT*H! They’ve already damaged the Scout program enough with their quirkiness. They didn’t “make it better” although I’m sure this was their desire and motivation, and I do believe they’re good, sincere people, but they’ve screwed it up and it’s time to fix it.
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Dear Andy,
Just a brief comment about your mention of Theodore Roosevelt as the “first Chief Scout”… He wasn’t. Lt. Gen. Robert S.S. Baden-Powell was the first Chief Scout of the UK (later first and only Chief Scout of the World); Ernest Thompson Seton was the BSA’s first Chief Scout (but not the only one--we had two more). Theodore Roosevelt did hold the honorary position of Chief Scout Citizen, so you were close. With the upcoming 100th Anniversary of American Scouting, I really hope the BSA does a good job of educating Scouts about our history and these important people. (Michael R. Brown)
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Dear Andy,
Where is the Arrow of Light award placed on the Boy Scout uniform? (Boy Scout, Minsi Trails Council, PA)
Yes I found it. Thank you.
That's good! Here's the deal... 99% of what you need is right in that book! Read it, then read it again, then again! Wear it out! To my way of thinking, the best-looking handbooks have always been the ones that are practically falling apart from being read and read and read! Happy Scouting! |