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Three readers—Bob Reeder from the Grand Columbia Council in
Washington State; Martha Parks from Circle 10 in Texas; and Greg
Buliavac from the San Francisco Bay
Area Council—all noticed in my August 30th
column that I referred to the camping requirements for the
foundational Boy Scout ranks as “adding
up to six overnight campouts,” and wrote to correct me. Yes,
they’re all technically accurate: The total camping-out
requirements for all three ranks can be cranked out in just
three trips! That agreed to from a “legal” perspective, I think
I’ll keep MHO that six campouts is just about the right number
for a First Class Scout.
Meanwhile, here’s the kind of “paycheck” that keeps me thumpin’
along…
Hi
Andy,
I
want to let you know that, in your September 10 column, you
answered a question about procedures during a board of review
that totally blew our minds! Our troop has been doing it wrong
for a long time! We’re absolutely in direct violation of BSA
policy! I was “taught” that we quiz the Scouts on each and all
of the requirements—first aid, star-navigating, hiking safety,
and so on—of the rank they’re leaving, plus the history of the
Boy Scouts, the symbolism behind the Scout badge, and, Yes, they
had to bring rope and demonstrate knot-tying! We even have
forms where we can check “satisfactory,” “marginal,” or
“unsatisfactory,” and write comments! Can you believe that? I
copied and pasted your column and sent it to the troop. We're
going to do it the right way from now on!
On a
positive note, our Scout definitely know their stuff and can
explain the history of Scouting and the symbolism of the badge!
Thanks for your column! (Whitney Noel, Flint River Council, GA)
The best part of
your message is that you’re fixing it! Congratulations! There
are, frankly, a few too many folks who’d rather keep doing it
wrong than admit they'd messed up and fix it. I'm immensely
respectful of what you're all doing.
I also understand that it's still an important thing for your
Scouts to know how to tie knots, using a compass or the stars,
the history of Scouting, the elements of the Scout badge, and so
on. The way Scouting reinforces these things is not so much
through "testing" as through active and continual use of the
skills and knowledge acquired. Here's what I mean... The next
time you have a court of honor, let's say, get two Scouts to
volunteer to tell the audience the story of how Scouting began
(“short” version, of course). Or, the next time you go camping,
find (or create) a situation where tying two half-hitches is
critical, and then have your Scouts do it. You're getting the
idea, right...?
Scouting is kinetic, it's visceral, it's active, it's involved
and involving. When we keep it in the "doing" mode and as far
away from "classrooms" as we can, we're gonna deliver Scouting
as it was meant to be! Keep on keepin’ on!
Dear Andy,
I enjoy reading
your columns and I’ve learned a lot from them. I’d like to
offer a suggestion… When I have a question about registration or
advancement requirements, like the person in your September 10th
column asking about whether or not Scouts have to be registered
in both a troop and a crew to continue working on Eagle rank, I
don’t direct that sort of question to their District
Executive—the best resource for something like that is their
council registrar. This person will have the necessary
knowledge to answer that type of question and should be able to
direct you to the publication containing the information you
need. A lot of volunteers don’t know that this person exists at
their service center, but they’re a great resource for questions
like these. Thanks for the time you put in and your commitment
to Scouting (Matt Kaufman, Lincoln Trails Council, IL)
Excellent point!
And, yes, registrars can be a big help. So can lots of other
folks on the service center staff. The trick is to know who
knows (or should know) what, and then go to them, and the added
trick of NOT expecting a DE to be in any way knowledgeable in
subjects like that. What we volunteers often forget is that DEs
are trained in district operational subjects; not in the more
granular stuff that you and I—as volunteers "in the
trenches"—deal with every day. The problem is two-fold: DEs
are reluctant to state that they don't know something (even when
there's no reason for them to know it!) so they wing it when
they shouldn't, and volunteers don't get it that they shouldn't
be asking a DE questions like that in the first place!
Dear Andy,
Our troop’s
website is really boring and I want to take an active part in
updating it. Our current webmaster is really computer technical
and controls all the content on the site. When questioned about
the site and needs for improvement, he gets somewhat bothered
and argumentative. He continually cites the Guide To Safe
Scouting as the reason why we can’t update the site, arguing
that pictures of the Scouts in action can’t be put on the site.
I’d like to work on updating the site as a way to “sell” our
troop to Cub Scout packs in the area. Is there any prohibition
about putting the Scouts’ photos on the website? I’m thinking
we could get a waiver from each boy’s parents to use the photos.
(ASM)
The BSA has very
specific stipulations for unit websites, and this information is
available through your own local council. Call 'em up and ask
who you should speak to. This gets you solidly "grounded," so
that you can have a conversation with your troop's webmaster and
be able to separate the horses from the horsepucky.
As you're deciding where to put your "Scouting energy," do keep
in mind that the Internet can be highly interactive, and can
also be totally "passive"—Like television, it requires the
engagement of the user, and while the most engaging website on
the planet might be there, if folks aren't terribly interested
in checking it out, a lot of time and energy will have gone into
not a whole lot of results other than a pretty site!
NetCommish
Comment: You should visit BSA's Advice for personal
and unit Web sites at
http://www.scouting.org/Webmasters/units.aspx where you'll
find guidance on what goes and what doesn't. Here's what
BSA says:
"While most
Internet users are honest, there is a criminal element that
seeks information as a way to gain access to victims. For that
reason, be especially careful about providing any personal
information—names, e-mail addresses, phone numbers, etc. Always
get written permission before posting personal information about
adult volunteers, and never publish personal information about
youth members. If you display or post images of adult and youth
members involved in Scouting activities on your Web site, you
should first obtain written permissions from the adults and the
parents or guardians of any youth members."
Hi Andy,
Both of my boys
are in Scouts. One is an Eagle candidate and the other is a Star
Scout. Can you please give me a job description and the duties a
Scout needs to perform when given the position of Librarian or
Historian. It seems that the troop sometimes "guesses" and I'd
like to have it in writing. (Lumie Emini, Rainbow Council, IL)
Both of these
positions are described in the Scoutmaster Handbook.
Dear
Andy.
I have a question
about the role of Scoutmaster Conference and board of review…
Our Scoutmaster has approved two Scouts for advancement to Life
rank prior to their full six months as Star Scouts. In the
opinion of our troop committee, both are good boys, but somewhat
lacking in maturity and in their scouting skills (neither one
can tie their basic knots and neither can answer basic Scouting
history questions, like who the founder of Scouting is, the
meaning behind the Scout badge, and so forth). Moreover, the
woman who is the troop’s advancement chair has filled out all
their merit badge worksheets for them (she justifies this by
explaining that the two boys both "learning disabilities").
She’s also the mother of one of the Scouts and her best friend
is the mother of the other Scout. Meanwhile, we others on the
troop committee (who served as members of the board of review
for each of these Scouts) have questioned the validity of moving
them u to Life rank. In short, in their boards of review we did
not recommend them for advancement to Life rank. Now, the
parent/advancement chair has questioned this, and said we have
no right to make this sort of decision. She went on to say that,
since the Scoutmaster (her husband, and the step-father of one
of the Scouts!) passed them, that’s good enough for her. Any
thoughts? (Name & Council Withheld)
Broadly, a board
of review has the absolute responsibility and inalienable right
to decide whether or not a Scout has properly completed all of
the requirements for a rank. This doesn't mean that the board
can re-test the Scout; however, if in the course of the
conversation it becomes obvious that one or more requirements
has been altered in some way, then the board has an obligation
to inform the Scout that he is not, in their estimation, ready
to advance. The board then provides the Scout with written
instructions on what to do to rectify this situation, and a
time-line for completion, so that he can have a successful
review.
However, the situation you describe is a no-brainer. If tenure
hasn't been met, there can’t be a board of review in the first
place, and if the board members didn't know of this shortcoming
until the review began, then telling the Scout he's a month
early—come back in 30 days—is absolutely, positively the way to
proceed. This decision can’t be superseded, which makes the
advancement chair's comment about what's "good enough" for her
meaningless.
Your troop's larger problem is obvious, of course. I hope you
all can find a way to replace the rascals and fix this mess.
Hello Andy,
For
the Camping merit badge, it states in requirement 9(a), "You may
use a week of long-term camp toward this requirement." Does
that mean only
one week, or can they use a week every year? Also if the
Scout’s a Den Chef, and goes to Cub Camp with his den, can that
count towards camping nights? And what about camping with your
brother who’s a Cub Scout, on
pack or den outings? (Jim Donatelli, Greater Pittsburgh Council,
PA)
You're a Merit Badge Counselor for Camping, yes?
No, I’m not a Merit Badge Counselor; I’m an Assistant
Scoutmaster and have taken over the advancement position for the
troop. This is a topic often discussed at committee meetings,
with different opinions on what can count towards camping
nights. As the advancement chair, I’d like to know the facts.
It depends on who you ask. I can’t get a definite answer,
especially in writing. (Jim)
My best recommendation is for you to consult with a
Merit Badge Counselor for
Camping. The MBC has total and final say-so regarding
requirement compliance and merit badge completion, so this would
be the very best person you could possibly ask! But, come to
think of it, why would you all need to even give this a
thought? This is between the Scout and his Merit Badge
Counselor, and it’s really outside your purview, unless you
sorta like wrappin’ yourselves around your own axle. In the
meanwhile, just read the requirement: "A week" means just that:
Up to seven days-and-nights. Period.
On your volunteer position with the troop, Assistant
Scoutmasters have specific responsibilities, but "advancement"
usually isn't one of them, because the advancement chair
typically schedules and then heads up boards of review, and
neither a Scoutmaster nor
Assistant Scoutmaster can be a board of review member, so you’re
outa luck on “finishing” the Scouts in your troop!
If you want to be an Assistant Scoutmaster and do that job, great!
If you want to be the troop advancement chair, then you’re
better off changing your registration to committee member.
Dear
Andy,
First, what’s the BSA policy for a troop treasurer opening an
account and getting a debit card or credit card? I recall
something mentioned in commissioner's training about two-deep
leadership for the position, and a troop should have two people
to sign on checks. As a troop committee, we’ve previously asked
for a report with troop account information on a quarterly
basis, because the treasurer gets overwhelmed if she has to do
it monthly. We have not received that information, and now she
wants to make things simpler by getting debit card for her use.
What do you think?
Second, who should approach an adult on the unit committee when
she’s after another committee member while she’s married to one
of the other volunteers in the troop? I call it fraternizing,
and it’s wrong and a poor example to Scouts who may see or
overhear inappropriate conversations while the two flirting.
(Name & Council Withheld)
Those are two very interesting questions and I'm going to try to
keep my answers just as brief and un-complicated as possible...
The BSA doesn't have a policy about unit checking accounts.
This is up to the grown-ups in the unit, and the grown-ups in
the sponsoring organization, to agree on. It's also dependent
on what a local bank will agree to. That said, the treasurer is
typically the one in any organization, group, club, etc. who
reimburses people for their purchases; the treasurer doesn't
actually make the purchases all by himself or herself. When a
purchase is made, the purchaser submits the bill proving the
expense to the committee chair, the committee chair initials it
as OK and gives it to the treasurer, and then the treasurer
enters the expense in the record and writes the reimbursement
check payable to the original purchaser. This is a very
straightforward way of doing things and most volunteer groups
follow this simple procedure. No "debit" or other card is ever
necessary, because the treasurer is never making actual
purchases. If you have a treasurer who isn't capable of keeping
track of and reporting income and expenses of a troop monthly,
your troop needs to get a new treasurer—one who can actually do
the job.
If one or more grown-ups associated with the troop is messin'
around, or just giving the appearance of messin' around, the
Committee Chair, with the Chartered Organization Representative
at his side, needs to shut 'em down, privately, quietly, and for
sure. If they don't get the message the first time, they're on
the outside lookin' in fast as you can say Jack Robinson.
Dear
Andy,
As
COR for both a pack and a troop, one of the thing I enjoy doing
is when I find out that a new adult volunteer earned either the
Arrow of Light or Eagle Scout rank as a youth, I present them
with their “square knot” at a pack or troop meeting. Last night
I discovered that a new adult leader had earned the equivalent
of Eagle as a Scout in Argentina. Is he entitled to wear the
Eagle square knot if he received his Eagle in a different
country? In looking at the requirements pertaining to who may
wear the knot, it doesn’t specify that the Eagle must be earned
in the U.S. (Mark Thielen, Southwest Florida Council)
I've
known Scouters from the U.K. who earned their Queen's Scout
Award (the highest youth rank in the British Scout Association);
however, it's called Queen's Scout; not Eagle Scout. If you
learn, however, that this gentleman earned the BSA Eagle Scout
rank in Argentina, or anywhere, then of course he's entitled to
wear the corresponding adult “square knot” badge.
Hi Andy,
I’d like to know where you get your information and in what
publication is the BSA policy printed on the selection and
appointment of the Junior Assistant Scoutmaster position.
Thanks for your help and good Scouting to you (Army Leonetti,
Program & Training Executive, Greater Niagara Frontier Council,
NY)
I've found that 99% of the information we need about Boy Scouting
is the Boy Scout Handbook,
and the other 99% is in the
Scoutmaster Handbook.
NetCommish
Comment: In addition to the handbooks that Andy
mentioned you can also find a helpful training presentation that
includes a description of the role of Junior Assistant
Scoutmaster and the appointment criteria at BSA's Online
Learning Center. See,
http://olc.scouting.org/resources/TLT.ppt.
But remember, start with the handbook.
Dear Andy,
Can
you complete a requirement for a merit badge before you start
the badge? For example, you take an airplane flight on a
commercial airline in June, and then in September you decide to
start the Aviation merit badge. Can you count that flight as
satisfying one of the two for requirement no. 2? (Sandy)
In
his introductory meeting with his Merit Badge Counselor, the
Scout can ask this question. It's a good one, and worth asking.
Dear
Andy,
Since the issue of evaluating the “active” requirement comes up
so often, I’d like to share three methods I use…
First, in the Scoutmaster's Conference, ask the Scout how he’s
fulfilled this requirement for the rank—His answer may surprise
you! Second, check out the current Advancement Policy Book.
Third, in the Conference just look across the table—If there’s
a Scout sitting there, there's a 99% good chance he’s fulfilled
the requirement! (Clarke Green) (PS, I know what the “*” stands
for in “RT*H”!)
IMHO, you're right on the * money.
Dear Andy,
I
started using coup sticks (like the one in the Webelos Den
Leader Book) with my den to promote advancement and
participation—I gave my Cubs a chart listing what they can get
for certain things, to decorate their sticks. But then some of
the Cubs felt that it wasn’t fair that “Johnny” got three bear
claws when they only got one, even though Johnny went to Cub day
camp and Cub resident camp plus a district overnight activity,
but the others only went to day camp.
I
also award bells to my Cubs, to reinforce positive behavior. For
example, I "caught" a boy helping me to return our den meeting
room to the way we found it, while the others left for the day,
so I gave this Cub a small bell. But now I have several parents
telling me I was “unfair” to their sons because I didn’t give
them bells, too. Never mind that their sons weren’t even there.
Last
year, our pack gave special patches to Cubs who wore their
uniforms to pack meetings, until one of the leaders said it
wasn’t fair to not give these to the Cubs who didn't wear their
uniforms.
I’m
encountering parents who won't take the time to open the
handbook with their son and complete surprisingly simple
activities, and then I get the blame because “Johnny” got his
badge before their son. It seems that constantly making every
single thing “fair” only causes people to refuse to take
responsibility for their own actions—It’s just easier to shout
“unfair.”
While I feel bad for kids whose parents teach them this stuff, I
feel even worse for the boys who go above and beyond, and wind
up getting their efforts reduced to the common denominator, or
even belittled.
Trying to make everything “fair” is frustrating, but all I can
do is provide equal opportunity for the boys in my den to
advance. I gave every boy a calendar detailing what we’ll be
doing in each den meeting until the end of the year, and what
needs to be done at home. Everyone is aware of the potential,
but they have to choose to participate. Am I missing something
here? (Michelle, WDL, Detroit Area Council, MI)
You're not missing a thing. Kids understand "fair" better than
their own parents give them credit for, and those who don't were
invariably taught "entitlement" by their own parents. Don't
change a thing. Here's a true story...
My kids' grammar school held an annual "Hobby & Craft Show" for
many years, in which students competed by grade level in a
variety of categories, including creativity, science,
craftsmanship, etc., and for each grade there was an overall
Blue Ribbon for First Place, Red for Second and Yellow for Third
Place. Every year, out of approximately 600 students, there
were well over 500 entries. Then, one year, the parents got
together and decided that just three "top ribbons" per grade
wasn't “fair,” and that every student who had an entry,
regardless of its quality, would receive a "participant" ribbon
and that there would be no more "discrimination" and
“unfairness.” Well, word got to the students that there were no
more top prizes and that everyone gets a ribbon, and guess what
happened: Entries went from over 500 in previous years to under
100 that year, and even less the next year, and by the third
year there was no more event, despite its having been in
existence for over 60 years before they started messin' with it
in the name of “fairness.”
The
kids know. And any kid who shouts "unfair" has been taught this
by a parent who is absolutely clueless about motivation,
self-worth, and self-esteem.
So don't change a thing and if I had a medal I'd pin it on you!
(But don't tell anyone, cause they might think I'm bein'
"unfair"!)
Dear
Andy,
What
are proper hygiene guidelines used for shooting, and what are
three shotgun sports? (Kelsey Buckmaster)
Scout shooting sports are supervised and controlled by trained
range masters in each BSA council, and carried out only at BSA
camps. This is a case where contacting your local council
service center is the way to go.
Dear
Andy,
I'm
a mom helping out with a Denali Award ceremony; there are five
Scouts getting it. We really don't know what to do. Have you
heard of any cool ceremonies for this award? (Barbara Larsen,
Great Salt Lake Council, UT)
The
Denali Award is certainly significant, especially for five young
men at once! I'm not aware, however, of any particular
"published" ceremonies for this award. You may want to reach out
to your stake president and ask him to check around with
others! Your council service center may have someone who can
give you some suggestions, too. Best wishes and congratulations
to those Varsity Scouts!
Dear
Andy,
Are
boards of review held only when a Scout’s ready for advancement,
or can our Advancement Chair hold one to discuss merit badge
completion with Scouts who have a lot of partials? What I mean
is, can we hold one to ask why they haven’t finished up, or
what plans do they have to finish them, or when do they expect
they’ll be done, and is there anything the Scoutmaster or
Advancement Chair can do to assist?
I
hold Scoutmaster Conferences and ask the same questions, but our
Advancement Chair would like to do the same thing. I don't see
a problem with it and think it's a great idea, since it'll only
reinforce that we care and there are more people to help them
other than me that they can go to. What do you think? (Hardy,
SM)
Neither Scoutmasters conferences nor boards of review are in any
way limited to when a Scout’s ready to advance. These are
excellent and appropriate "tools" for the troop's adult
volunteers to employ, to encourage Scouts to continue to advance
along the Scouting trail. This would include encouraging a
Scout to convert a fistful of "partials" into real merit badges,
too!
Team up! There's no reason why you and the advancement chair
can't have a conversation with any Scout, to help him along. Of
course, you want to keep everything conversational, avoid "why"
questions wherever possible (A "Why..." question has the
immediate tendency to put people—Scouts included—on the
defensive), and make sure he doesn't feel ganged up on or the
subject of an inquisition! Try “what…” questions, like “What’s
getting in the way of finishing up?” or “What court of honor
would you like to receive this one at?” Other that that, I'd
say you've got a great idea and run with it! Your own Question
No. 4 is wonderful!
Dear
Andy,
I’ve read your columns for a few years now and love what you
have to impart on the rest of us Scouters. I’ve looked through
some old posts and couldn't find anything that addresses my
issues (although I'm sure it is out there). Here is my issue
that I hope you can help me with…
I am Troop Committee Chair and I’ve spoken with my Scoutmaster
about an issue he’s having with two dads of two of our Scouts
who crossed over from Webelos this past March. When the Scouts
first came to our troop, the Scoutmaster let the two dads come
on their first campout with the rest of the troop (as parents;
not as registered volunteers). During this campout they did
nothing but hover over their sons, smoked in front of all the
Scouts, brought DVD players for their sons to use, went to
McDonalds for their personal food (we cook as patrols but they
didn’t participate). After that campout, I told the Scoutmaster
that these dads couldn’t camp with the troop in the future;
however, now that we’re into our new Scout year, we have these
same two dads wanting to go camping with the troop. Now I can
handle resolving the issues like DVD players and smoking and
McDonalds—that's the easy part. What I need some guidance with
is how to keep the "I don't get it” dads from camping with us.
Are there rules that dictate which adults can camp and when they
can camp, such as only registered and trained Assistant
Scoutmasters? Your thoughts on this would be appreciated, as
well as directing me to any BSA publications that address the
way to handle this. I need to institute rules that follow the
BSA rules while being fair to the entire troop. I assume it’s
not as easy as telling them to get lost, if it’s purely to
exclude only these two dads…or is it? I need a rule that I can
enforce across the whole troop in a fair manner. I hope the
answer is not that any registered leader can camp, since it’s
too easy for these two to just fork over the registration fee
and fill out an application and then be able to camp. Thanks
for taking the time to respond to my concerns. (Matt Riti, CC,
Central New Jersey Council)
The
overall solution to your problem is simpler than you may have
imagined: You and the Scoutmaster hold an "orientation" meeting
of all new parents and, in it, describe precisely what’s
expected of parents and what isn't. You see, the fundamental
problem here seems to be that no one's spoken up! You don't
need "written rules." In the first place, they'll take way too
long to construct and in the second the BSA's already done it
for you! Just follow, for the most part, the GTSS, and you'll
be OK. On the electronics, that's simply a big NO and you don't
need a "policy" on that—you just say so. Stuff like smoking is,
of course, strictly forbidden and shame on the leader who saw
this and didn't put an immediate stop to it. Time to grow some
spines, folks!
As
for down the road, since adults don’t camp side-by-side with the
Scouts anyway, so long as they behave themselves and stay away
from the Scouts, any parent should be welcome to camp—and drive,
and cook, and pitch tents, and clean up, and…you’re getting
this, right?
Oh, just so it’s covered, any adult who violates a BSA policy
(e.g., smoking, alcohol, firearms, etc.) must be asked to cease
immediately and if they refuse must be ordered to leave the
campsite immediately. Any person who refuses, you call the cops
and have ‘em hauled out. End of story.
Dear
Andy,
I have a concern about the BSA organizational structure or shall
we say lack thereof. Our Scoutmaster together with our Committee
Chair is resolute in making up his own rules about how the troop
should be run. This has caused many conflicts with parents and
Scouts, and caused quite a few to leave the troop. All we’ve
asked is that they follow BSA policies and not their own made-up
rules. Even when I’ve complained to council officials, they’ve
responded that there’s nothing they can do. What this means to
me is that any troop can operate outside of BSA policies without
documentation or visibility of their policy differences by the
Scouts or their parents. Each troop is an island to itself, a
personal Boy Scout club with no overall governance by the BSA
organization—In other words, no chain of command. Now our
family is faced with looking for a new troop for our two sons
and, unfortunately, there’s no way for me to know which troops
strictly follow BSA policy or make up their own policies. Sadly,
I believe that if more people knew of this lack of structure and
transparency they would not put their sons in Boy Scouts. It
makes me wonder how many boys have left Scouting over conflicts,
not knowing that they were just cheated by self-indulging adult
leaders. My suggestion is that if the BSA cannot enforce policy
at the troop level, then they should, in the spirit of fairness
and transparency, insist that each troop document and make
public their operating procedures that differ from BSA's. What
do you think? (John Acampora)
I
think you raise very important points about the need for
volunteers in Scouting to deliver the program as written, and
not according to their own whims or predilections. Many of the
questions in my columns address wayward volunteers and I've also
devoted some columns in their entirety to this subject.
The proper "policing," however, is supposed to be done by the
actual owners of the Scouting units: The Chartered Organizations
themselves. If they fail to notice, or fail to take action,
then the culprits will persist in their off-center methods, and
the big losers are, of course, the very youth we're supposed to
be here to serve.
You're pursuing the right course of action: When we find a
wayward troop that is not “right-able,” we steer clear; when we
discover from within that the program's been corrupted, we get
out!
For what to look for when visiting a new troop, read a few of my
recent columns and/or read the front end of the Boy Scout
Handbook. My best wishes for a happier Scouting experience
are with your two sons and their friends.
Hi
Andy,
My
son’s is a Life Scout. He attended the 2005 National Scout
Jamboree and prefers his Jambo cap to the traditional Boy Scout
cap. Is this acceptable? Can it be worn as "official" uniform?
(Laura, Hudson Valley Council, NY)
Which BSA cap is worn is a troop decision... You son can ask his
Patrol Leader or Senior Patrol Leader if this is OK. (Makes me
wonder what he’s been doin’ for the past three years, though!)
Dear
Andy,
Our
Senior Patrol Leader just decided to step down from his
position. The Scoutmaster took it upon himself to assign the
ASPL to this slot. We have troop elections in two months, so
it’s only short-term, but what I want to know is this: Can a
Scoutmaster take it upon himself to shift the ASPL to the SPL
position, or should this have been decided by the Patrol Leaders
Council (PLC)? (Debbie Fuentes, Troop Advancement Coordinator
West Central Florida Council)
I'm
going to say this is a judgment call, pure and simple. The PLC
doesn't pick from amongst themselves, so that that's not an
avenue anyway. But if a new election's held right now, just two
months before the regularly scheduled election, at least one
patrol will need to reshuffle itself, but for how long? Two
months? Eight months? Somewhere in-between? Does the troop do a
two-month shift of all future elections? Instead of all this,
how about giving the ASPL a shot at the job, and coach him along
the way? If I were your troop's Scoutmaster, I'd probably opt
for this path, because it seems to make sense and it’s certainly
the least disruptive to overall troop operations. Besides, the
ASPL was hand-picked by the SPL, so they’re likely to be similar
in leadership style and motivation, which help keep a troop
firing on all cylinders.
Hello Andy,
I’m
a Scoutmaster, and my question is on the BSA Policy that states,
“No one-on-one contact with youth.” The description of this
policy looks to focus on face-to-face contact. Does this policy
also apply to email and phone communications? If so, how does a
Scoutmaster (or any adult volunteer, for that matter) handle
such communications and not violate the BSA policy? (Larry
Osorio, SM, Mt. Diablo-Silverado Council, CA)
Fabulous question! Speaking just for myself, to be really safe
(which, as an internationally read columnist, I must!), I insist
that a Scout who writes to me via email to either Cc a parent or
use a parent's address to communicate. If it’s our first
communication, I Cc our webmaster, just so there's a "third
party." Back here at home, when I’m counseling a Scout or
Scouts on a merit badge, I usually ask my wife to be in the room
with me. When I’m making a phone call to a single Scout, I use
a speaker-phone, and she’s in the room. Maybe I'm being
over-cautious, but remember: Even the paranoid have enemies!
(just joking…sorta)
Hi
Andy,
That’s a wonderful answer! In addition to having the Scout Cc
his parent or guardian, I’ll do so, too. I’ll also have my ASMs
follow this procedure. Also, as you note, it would be good to
have a “third party” involved in the communications. For my
troop, that would probably be our Committee Chair. On phone
communications, I love your speakerphone idea—It’s really great.
Thanks! This will help my troop and my adult leaders. (Larry
Osorio)
You asked one of the most intelligent questions ever to hit this
writer! THANKS!
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